I confess...I'm not thrilled about the spark that led me to this topic, but I think it's worthwhile anyway. Among the continued bout of name-calling I wrote about here, a comment was made questioning whether I am a worthy feminist because MM came to my defense during the initial battle round. I hadn't said much publicly myself because I didn't feel the forum was appropriate. I contacted one woman privately to apologize for inadvertent hurt but didn't care to engage in the mud-slinging given the tone. MM saw I was upset and jumped into the fray, although he later deleted a comment written in anger. This defense was construed as him "protecting his woman" in a way that made him evil and me a poor excuse for a feminist.
So, that's what got my mind toying with the concept of feminism. I do consider myself a feminist. In my mind, that isn't about suggesting women are an under-class or that, conversely, they are superior to men and worthy of special status. For me, it is just about advocating for equality and for options. I think being a stay-at-home mom is just as much a feminist move as being a CEO, as long as it is a true choice. I believe the battle fought by prior generations of women was about opening options and I do get upset when women in-fight about the validity of various choices. I think we're often are own worst enemies these days whether in office politics, the assorted mommy wars, or the importance of appearances
I also don't think being a feminist means I can't appreciate old-fashioned "gentlemanly" behaviors. I think it is sweet that MM opens doors for me. He does it to be nice. He doesn't think I'm incapable of opening them myself and he'll "let" me get the door if I'm there first or his hands or full. I remember standing in a doorway once with a guy who wouldn't walk through while I held it (I'd gotten there first)....THAT rankled my feminist side, just plain courtesy does not. He CAN handle the heavier grocery bags more easily than I can, that's just a fact. He knows I could manage them myself but he's happy to lend a hand. And he's happy to get a hand in return.
Likewise, I don't think having him come to my defense is anti-feminist. In truth, I'd expect him to defend me. And I would absolutely defend him. I do think we'd go about it in different ways based on our personalities (which also reflected in my lack of immediate public reply in the prior events), but a relationship is about having each others backs. I'd defend a female friend too. It isn't a gender issue. It's simple respect and support.
I am a feminist. I don't feel the need to distance myself from that term, like some people do, because I don't think it needs to be an angry term. If you want to burn your bra, go ahead. I'd rather not (umm...I get cold easily...so, yeah). I very rarely blame slights on my gender, though I also don't deny that bias sometimes still linger. I am woman, hear me roar. Or hear me ramble, cause that's more my style and feminism gives me that choice.
Tuesday, June 21, 2011
Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Two Reviews: My Dear I Wanted to Tell You (Louisa Young) and •Sugar in My Bowl: Real Women Write About Real Sex (Erica Jong)
I confess...I totally could have posted one of these a few weeks ago, but decided to wait since my family members see this blog and I didn't want to have a post devoted to a book about women and sex. And having two books to review means I can justify some bullet point usage...
This book took a bit to grow on me. I didn't invest in the characters immediately and was turned off by the narratives focused on the front. I am glad I kept going though, because I did grow to appreciate the characters. Young fleshes them out and explores the way the war (and society in general) impacts a varied group of individuals. Many of the characters have flaws but I came to appreciate them for their own knowledge of their imperfection. It did take time to get there, but I did become involved with their journeys (both individual and collective). It isn't a book I expect to revist and I'm again ending up on my 3.5 star review (of 5)...a solid and positive score from me and one that would have been rounded down in the early going but that I found myself coming around on in time and would conclude with a rounded up 4 stars.
As is usually the case with collections, there were pieces where I wanted more and pieces I could have done with out...which is kind of appropriate given the topic. I appreciated the frankness with which the authors wrote and the willingness to own their sexuality and desires that still makes note of how difficult taking ownership and talking honestly about sex can be, especially as women. I highly recommend the collection and happily give the anthology a full five stars. I thoroughly enjoyed it and the essay format makes it easy to read in pieces (I normally dislike short story collections so that's unique for me to enjoy).
- My Dear I Wanted to Tell You by Lousia Young
This book took a bit to grow on me. I didn't invest in the characters immediately and was turned off by the narratives focused on the front. I am glad I kept going though, because I did grow to appreciate the characters. Young fleshes them out and explores the way the war (and society in general) impacts a varied group of individuals. Many of the characters have flaws but I came to appreciate them for their own knowledge of their imperfection. It did take time to get there, but I did become involved with their journeys (both individual and collective). It isn't a book I expect to revist and I'm again ending up on my 3.5 star review (of 5)...a solid and positive score from me and one that would have been rounded down in the early going but that I found myself coming around on in time and would conclude with a rounded up 4 stars.
- Sugar in My Bowl: Real Women Write About Real Sex by Erica Jong
As is usually the case with collections, there were pieces where I wanted more and pieces I could have done with out...which is kind of appropriate given the topic. I appreciated the frankness with which the authors wrote and the willingness to own their sexuality and desires that still makes note of how difficult taking ownership and talking honestly about sex can be, especially as women. I highly recommend the collection and happily give the anthology a full five stars. I thoroughly enjoyed it and the essay format makes it easy to read in pieces (I normally dislike short story collections so that's unique for me to enjoy).
Saturday, June 11, 2011
sticks and stones, 2011
I confess....I've debated this post since Thursday night. I knew I needed to wait until I could be sure why I was writing it and have it come from something other than anger and hurt. I am not writing it out of vengence or for validation. I work through things best by writing them and that's the goal...to think it out, to package it, and to put it away on a shelf.
A friend, Z (using non-initial letters...yes, I think about this stuff too much), made a FB link to an article with a title about obesity, weight stigma and bias. I replied, noting I couldn't read the piece w/o registering (side note: really, I can't stand registering constantly) but wanted to note that weight bias goes both ways. I noted three events where I was on the receiving end of stereotypes because I am smaller. I noted, too, that I do get MUCH better treatment in stores now than when I was heavy. Another woman, Y, replied:
See, completely irrelevent and self-absorbed comments such as this is why she gets defriended. To paraphrase, "Well, I'm skinny and people are mean to me too. Oh, and my back hurts. Waaaa."
Later, more in response to something MM posted in my defense (and, admittedly, in return attack mode...they've said women's tears kill men's libido, I think it also turns on defense mechanisms), she added:
But instead of attacking me, consider the context of my comment and think about why everyone is always busy or out of town when you visit.
Okay. Here we go...
As to the specific comment, I know I play the "me too" game too much. It is a crutch for a socially awkward and uncertain person. I admit that and I do see it. I do want to say though that my point was NOT that people are mean to me but that stereotypes hit both ends of the weight spectrum. I've seen studies on doctors pre-judging heavy patients, but really nothing on judgments about smaller women. I was clear that I hadn't read the article and I owned my statement as my own observations. I am not a researcher so I don't have stats, I only have experience. While I share my stories, I also will place high value on yours as well. After all, social science studies are just experiences added up.
Additionally, I know I update my FB status a bit more than I should. I'm home all day. I'm doing job applications left and right, but I still have time on my hands. So I comment more. I've also talked with a couple of my docs about the fact that being unemployed isn't great for dealing with pain. Yes, it is nice not to have to put on the work face and to be able to lie down as needed, etc., but it also leaves you with a lot of time to just dwell on the physical. I'll also say that I haven't had the easiest journey in life and 2010 was a particularly rough year. I'm coming back from that and 2011 has had some great events, but I'm still haunted by a lot of demons (2010's and longer term ones). If you want to defriend me, fine. If you want to hide my posts, fine. If you want to just ignore them, fine too. I get it.
With that said, I was hurt by the comment(s). I don't need you (the general "you") to like me. Again, it'll still likely sting if you don't, but it's your right. I think I come off as brash and snobby sometimes but those who truly know me know I see the brilliance and strengths of others much more so than my own and try hard to treat others with high levels of respect. If I'm not for you, fine. You can tell me if it's something we can work out. You can complain about me to other people (we all do that...). But a public flogging is just plain rude and uncalled for. There are exceptions, like a response to another cruel comment, but not many. Y doesn't need to like me, but to beat me up in a thread started by someone else is not cool.
It is further complicated because there are always people in the middle. Obviously, we're both friends with Z and Z did NOT deserve the explosion after her post. We are also more closely tied since her BF is an important part of MM's life. I'd actually noticed she defriended me and mentioned it to MM. In this case, I didn't need to be besties with her but I did hope we could at least tolerate each other because of the guys' relationship. It makes the public nature even more complex because it put MM in an awkward place. Faced with a hurting girlfriend, he responded in anger and counterattacked. It wasn't kind and he later deleted it when tempers settled but there were some angry word, online and by phone, b/w MM and Y's BF. Not wanting to cause that rift is actually why I only replied with "wow"...well, okay, I was also blindsided and in shock.
They are boys They yelled a bit. I will say that Y's BF didn't seem to see the irony that they were actually doing the very same thing...MM stood up for me and he stood up for Y. As he should. As they both should. Yes, I'm a big girl and can stand up for myself, but I like that MM has my back. I have his too...it isn't a one-way, boys-only street. As I said before, I mentioned noticing the defriedingDefriending is fine, raised my eyebrows but fine. Public flagellation shows a lack of consideration for other people, not just me.
I am a queen of self-doubt. I secretly wonder if every single person around me truly hates me. I reached out to a couple people in our overlapping circles. I told them I simply needed to know...if they didn't want me around, that was fine, but I wanted to know (privately, please). I was reassured that we were cool. They all wanted to avoid getting in the middle so didn't say much beyond that, but we got that air cleared.
Takeaways (w/ bullets to bring me back):
A friend, Z (using non-initial letters...yes, I think about this stuff too much), made a FB link to an article with a title about obesity, weight stigma and bias. I replied, noting I couldn't read the piece w/o registering (side note: really, I can't stand registering constantly) but wanted to note that weight bias goes both ways. I noted three events where I was on the receiving end of stereotypes because I am smaller. I noted, too, that I do get MUCH better treatment in stores now than when I was heavy. Another woman, Y, replied:
See, completely irrelevent and self-absorbed comments such as this is why she gets defriended. To paraphrase, "Well, I'm skinny and people are mean to me too. Oh, and my back hurts. Waaaa."
Later, more in response to something MM posted in my defense (and, admittedly, in return attack mode...they've said women's tears kill men's libido, I think it also turns on defense mechanisms), she added:
But instead of attacking me, consider the context of my comment and think about why everyone is always busy or out of town when you visit.
Okay. Here we go...
As to the specific comment, I know I play the "me too" game too much. It is a crutch for a socially awkward and uncertain person. I admit that and I do see it. I do want to say though that my point was NOT that people are mean to me but that stereotypes hit both ends of the weight spectrum. I've seen studies on doctors pre-judging heavy patients, but really nothing on judgments about smaller women. I was clear that I hadn't read the article and I owned my statement as my own observations. I am not a researcher so I don't have stats, I only have experience. While I share my stories, I also will place high value on yours as well. After all, social science studies are just experiences added up.
Additionally, I know I update my FB status a bit more than I should. I'm home all day. I'm doing job applications left and right, but I still have time on my hands. So I comment more. I've also talked with a couple of my docs about the fact that being unemployed isn't great for dealing with pain. Yes, it is nice not to have to put on the work face and to be able to lie down as needed, etc., but it also leaves you with a lot of time to just dwell on the physical. I'll also say that I haven't had the easiest journey in life and 2010 was a particularly rough year. I'm coming back from that and 2011 has had some great events, but I'm still haunted by a lot of demons (2010's and longer term ones). If you want to defriend me, fine. If you want to hide my posts, fine. If you want to just ignore them, fine too. I get it.
With that said, I was hurt by the comment(s). I don't need you (the general "you") to like me. Again, it'll still likely sting if you don't, but it's your right. I think I come off as brash and snobby sometimes but those who truly know me know I see the brilliance and strengths of others much more so than my own and try hard to treat others with high levels of respect. If I'm not for you, fine. You can tell me if it's something we can work out. You can complain about me to other people (we all do that...). But a public flogging is just plain rude and uncalled for. There are exceptions, like a response to another cruel comment, but not many. Y doesn't need to like me, but to beat me up in a thread started by someone else is not cool.
It is further complicated because there are always people in the middle. Obviously, we're both friends with Z and Z did NOT deserve the explosion after her post. We are also more closely tied since her BF is an important part of MM's life. I'd actually noticed she defriended me and mentioned it to MM. In this case, I didn't need to be besties with her but I did hope we could at least tolerate each other because of the guys' relationship. It makes the public nature even more complex because it put MM in an awkward place. Faced with a hurting girlfriend, he responded in anger and counterattacked. It wasn't kind and he later deleted it when tempers settled but there were some angry word, online and by phone, b/w MM and Y's BF. Not wanting to cause that rift is actually why I only replied with "wow"...well, okay, I was also blindsided and in shock.
They are boys They yelled a bit. I will say that Y's BF didn't seem to see the irony that they were actually doing the very same thing...MM stood up for me and he stood up for Y. As he should. As they both should. Yes, I'm a big girl and can stand up for myself, but I like that MM has my back. I have his too...it isn't a one-way, boys-only street. As I said before, I mentioned noticing the defriedingDefriending is fine, raised my eyebrows but fine. Public flagellation shows a lack of consideration for other people, not just me.
I am a queen of self-doubt. I secretly wonder if every single person around me truly hates me. I reached out to a couple people in our overlapping circles. I told them I simply needed to know...if they didn't want me around, that was fine, but I wanted to know (privately, please). I was reassured that we were cool. They all wanted to avoid getting in the middle so didn't say much beyond that, but we got that air cleared.
Takeaways (w/ bullets to bring me back):
- You don't have to like me. I would rather know than be an unwanted guest but...
- Sometimes I think we need to tolerate people for the sake of other people. If our circles overlap, feel free to try to avoid me and all that, but please respect the relationships that might be impacted by harsh words.
- I am aware of my "me too"ing. I know it isn't elegant.
- Public flogging isn't cool. It's junior high bullying and it saddens me that social media allows us to fall back on such things. If I'm the issue, we can talk about it, you can vent to others over coffee or beer, but please don't air the grievances in a public forum. Especially when it's a bit out of nowhere (i.e. would be diff if the poster said something...though I'd still prefer it be in private).
- I probably have doubted whether you like me. I'm really good at that, but I don't think it is just my thing...I'm pretty sure a lot of people have doubts. Playing on people's weaknesses isn't very cool.
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